© 2004 Jamie Zawinski <>

jwz: I do so love baiting furries
kiad: oh? do you have a url for me to laugh at?
jwz: the cameron post on my lj
kiad: *lauadadhas*
you are going to hell
jwz: I am?
kiad: well, if he's right, and he really is descended from a long line of wolf gods. then yes.
jwz: what's the furry word for "antisemitic"?
kiad: you know, I'm rather pleased that I don't have any idea.
jwz: is "trekkiebashing" a hate crime?
kiad: well- I guess it depends on if you think this is voluntary or involuntary retardation or malformation.
I mean, do you laugh at people with cerebral palsy? (I sometimes do, but I feel bad about it)
jwz: sometimes I feel bad about it, but not usually
kiad: I like to think they really do have something profoundly broken.
jwz: all humor derives from the suffering of others
kiad: I don't know. I was thinking about making out with someone on a huge whiteboard while figuring out my math homework
and this made me laugh
maybe it was my own suffering, however.
jwz: I have no response to that
kiad: hahaha
so- yeah
you are oppressing him
he has a little fur covered belief system
jwz: I totally want to be oppressed!
kiad: and jews have their little hat covered old book thumping belief system
jwz: what can I accuse people of oppressing me for?
kiad: hmm. see, you are hard to oppress, because you won't back things with beliefs.
this makes you a pain in the ass.
you have values and opinions, but, they are based in shadenfreud. and no one can argue with the appeal there.
hmm. I guess you could be oppressed for living in a country with an oppressive dictator.
jwz: they hate me for my scientific method!
kiad: yes.
they do
jwz: that's been done, though
kiad: so do I.
they essentially hate you for hating them
I like how he said he's always respected you
jwz: hmmmm
kiad: although he knows you laugh at furries
seems kinda weird to me
jwz: "don't hate me just because I think you're a dumbass!"
kiad: hmm
you wouldn't say that, though.
"your hate for me makes me laugh harder at you"
jwz: right, I'd be all, "go ahead and hate me, just don't talk to me about it"
kiad: you'd probably say that.
I guess your taste in music could be laughed at.
but, it really isn't very funny
jwz: well, some of it is
kiad: hahah
jwz: I do own truly what-was-I-thinking numbers of lords of acid releases
kiad: maybe you just don't offer people enough opportunities to laugh at you
hey. I just discovered lords of acid.
they did a robot song
so um. thats the one song I know!
jwz: perhaps I don't. how do you recommend I make an ass of myself?
kiad: hahha
no wonder I hate you
well, you'd have to be irrational, and brag about it.
or be histrionic about something.
you should pick a day to be totally irrational and baseless in every way
and just not fact-check, and allow every brief fantasy to be accepted as a true belief
then you'll be laughable, just like everyone else
if only for a day
jwz: but I never fact check!
kiad: you are such a liar
jwz: well, not often
kiad: I sent you that IQ and voting tally
jwz: mostly I pick things for maximal "funny" not maximal "true"
kiad: and you totally sent me a url telling me it was false
you ruined the funny factor
jwz: well I didn't go *looking* for that, I had just *seen* it already
kiad: bah
jwz: yeah, you should totally hate me for that
kiad: well, you didn't have to ruin it for me
cause then I had to ruin it for everyone else
and within moments, NO ONE BELIEVED IT
no thanks to you.
except the furries.
they still believe.
this is an arctic wolf with blue eyes and a navel piercing.
interested in computers and BDSM
hows your visual picture?
jwz: what, I can't hear you, I'm scrubbing out my brain with a wire brush
kiad: wow. you have awesome fans
your fans are probably the worst ever
what kind of a LOSER attracts fans like that
at least mine send me jewelry
and break into my house to do my laundry
jwz: warren ellis's fans are worse
kiad: heh
jwz: but I'll bet more of them show him their tits
kiad: I bet so
but, I bet he doesn't mind that much
jwz: wait, laundry? huh?

I think I should post this log now
kiad: you better not
jwz: HAH!

will you hate me?
kiad: I can't decide
why are you going to post it?
to laugh at me or the conversation?
jwz: because I think it's funny!
kiad: hahah
you can't decide what you are laughing at!
jwz: perhaps I will post it friends only so that furboy doesn't think it's all about him
kiad: hahaha
what an ego boost that would be for him
you know- it would only serve to rally the troops
jwz: which troops? I get troops now? cool!
kiad: which would be interesting in its own right
the furrykin troops!
you don't have jwzish troops
hmm. you know. somehow, it seems more wrong to be a plushie fan as opposed to a furry fan.
I don't know why- but masturbating on a pound puppy seems so much more wrong than having sex with a human in a dog costume.
jwz: tough call.
kiad: you see what I mean though, right?
jwz: I'm not so sure
kiad: I mean, at least with the latter, you probably know it is a human, you are just playing around.
but with the first, you are either getting off on the fact that it is a deadish animal like thing, or that it is an actual animal.
I have no idea why they do it
and even trying to intellectualize it is skeeving me out.
"is it the stuffing? the fur? The little pointy ears? the tail? oh god my brain is calling out to my wolf mother! Aroo! Aroo!"

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