Mr. Incognito
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i'm curious... what browser do you use?
Set your DNS to 8.8.8.8
Use Gmail for your e-mail
Use google search.
Use google maps.
Use google browser.
One trick is installing brave and disabling chrome on an android phone, many apps that rely on a web view (sso etc) will automatically use a brave version. Maybe it doesn’t do what I think it does, but I feel better and more ads are blocked.
I'm allergic to Dunning-Krugerrands, so.....
I can see nothing going wrong with giving my data to the guy who left Mozilla because he doesn’t think gay people should exists.
Ok, you got me. So I’ve disabled Chrome on my phone. So far so good, what do I install to take its place? Or is this all just dumb and I should re-enable it,,,
Cute, but doesn't it have the threat model wrong?
It's not that you don't want to tell chrome where you're going, it's that you don't want chrome writing all the sites you visit down on a clipboard that your boss/mom/roommate might see later while one of you is typing something into autocomplete.
Mr Incognito's lack of thumbs solves that problem fairly decently.
No, it really doesn't.
That's exactly what I mean. People are upset because they're assuming cognito is addressing a different problem than it is meant to address.
Cognito is about keeping local data like history and cookies clean. Full stop.
That solves a real problem, and it does it well. Exactly as advertised. I use it all the time if I want to have the AWS web console open on two accounts at once, say. Or, of course, visit something I don't want auto-completing in the address bar later or showing in my main browser history.
But it really has never been advertised as a VPN. If I visit something on the internet, the remote server, whether that's google or anyone else, will necessarily get my IP and request data, and there's nothing incognito mode can even theoretically do about it.
The entire point of the lawsuit is that Google's company line doesn't match their actual practice (ie. they say "we won't track you", but then do). Being able to switch accounts by going into a different window doesn't change the fact that Google can - and will - compile all that info together, negating any and all pretence of anonymity.
That's the company's entire business model: track users; gather info; sell to advertisers. Rinse, repeat. It doesn't suddenly stop because incog-nothin' tells users "Go ahead and type; we promise we won't peek".
I don't know what to tell you. If you open an incognito, it has always clearly stated, "Your activity might still be visible to....websites you visit."
Google indisputably has a shockingly pervasive data tracking and advertising business. Absolutely. But the important detail here is that Google is....surprise!...a website you visit. (As are other websites, some of which might contain a google tracking pixel.)
What Google is not is your mom or your roommate, or "another person using this device who might see your activity". Which is specifically the threat Incognito is addressed to. I don't know how to put it more simply.
🤔 "A website"? You really think Google is just "a website"? Not "a massive conglomerate of tracking tools, invasive apps, the No. 2 mobile OS (Android), and built around acquiring opposition to creative alternatives - rivaled only by FB?"
Really?
So... you admit that it's a lie and that the cartoon above is correct?
I always wondered what it would look like if Sergey Brin commented on this forum.
The point is this is very specifically NOT actually a thing that incognito tells users.
Hey, I really want to thank you for spending so much time defending a multinational corporation against a cartoon. All of us are really excited to read your WELL ACTUALLY opinions on this. You must be really fun at parties.
The cartoon is attacking users.
We're done here. Fuck off.
A cartoon that attacks users.
Oh no we all gonna die !!!
Some people really have to stop defending Amazon & Microsoft They the ones that attacking us with bad software and more .
If they only know the truth about google !
> That solves a real problem, and it does it well. Exactly as advertised. I use it all the time if I want to have the AWS web console open on two accounts at once, say. Or, of course, visit something I don't want auto-completing in the address bar later or showing in my main browser history.
I think there's a Firefox plugin specifically designed to let you use two AWS accounts at once in the console. If you're interested, let me know I'll dig it up.
Lately I have been seeing more websites that discriminate against Firefox users. For example if I load up Amazon on my Linux computer, I have to prove I'm not a robot, but if I load the exact same site at the same time on the same IP on the same computer in Chromium, I don't, and it lets me right in.
At first I thought it was because I configured Firefox to respect my privacy, but I tested it with a purely default profile and the same behavior occurs. So basically Chrome is the new Internet Explorer now. Anyone not using it gets a sub-standard experience online and is "probably a bot" (TM). And captcha-hell is big tech's favored method of punishing those that stray from the norm today.
Meanwhile Microsoft is busy consuming the video game industry, acquiring one developer after another, and soon they will do to Valve what they did to Netscape. Such is the only reason that Valve cares about Linux at all.
As best I can tell, Firefox's default settings these days may be more privacy-respecting than Chrome's, and sites notice. The last time I tried looking at the Wirecutter (yeah, yeah), it wouldn't show me comments in a default Firefox due to my privacy settings. This was whether regular or private browsing. The comments show up fine in a Chrome-derived browser, though -- or under Mr. Incognito, per above!
True story: as a critic, I'm often invited to view online screeners (which is a great relief for someone-who-hasn't-been-in-a-cinema-since-February-2020... and probably never will, as the pandemic enters Year 4).
One of the more popular screener sites - used by Netflix, Disney, and Paramount, to name a few - has the following listed in its FAQ (bold emphasis mine):
They only trust Chrome "due to security concerns". Yeah... that makes sense.
(Incidentally, I've often entertained the idea of downloading Chrome just for screenings, then deleting it immediately after each one.)
If you're stuck for options, you can do the equivalent of this with a virtual machine/container/similar. Separate from your actual PC, it starts as a clean machine with nothing but Chrome installed. Use it, shut it down, nuke it from orbit. It goes back to being a clean machine with nothing but Chrome installed for next time. There's most likely free-tier clown services that offer the same too.
And jwz.org is one of those sites! I have to paste links into Chrome just to see anything here other than "403 NO ROBOTS"
That's because you're running a version of Windows that is so old that you look like a botnet. Feel shame and upgrade your bullshit.