"The footage appears to have been deleted from Twitter for some reason."
It's difficult to tell from the videos precisely what percentage of the crowd was booing during the cringeworthy episode, but some on social media estimated it was the vast majority of people in the 18,000-capacity stadium.
Is there such a thing as accidental praxis? Because as much as I hate oligarchs, in a million years I could not have figured out a way to trick one to walk on stage and get booed for ten minutes straight by the proletariat.
Speaking as a former comedian, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Because ... have you ever had 10,000 people hate you TO YOUR FACE before? Because I have. And humans aren't wired for that.
I'd note that the 10,000 people hating me to my face were actually just stonily silent while I ate it on stage while opening for a musical act. And while I laughed it off after .. it was rough. And I'd been working for years at that point. But BOOING?!
And for a narcissist? Just saying -- expect some serious whiplash crazy coming over the next week.
Kanye: "I'm the biggest sell-out in the world! All my pals are rich white supremacists: Trump, the Proud Boys, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulis, Joe Rogan, and even Candace Owens' sorry ass. Nobody, especially nobody Black, will ever publicly associate with a rich white supremacist the way I have!"
Chappelle: "Hold my weed..."
I heard something about Ye fireing Milo on the "I Don't Speak German" podcast, but I haven't seen any further references to that.
Surprised that Chapelle didn’t introduce him as an African-American hero at this point.
The TERF to Nazi pipeline is real, and Chapelle is speedrunning it this year.
That whole time I hung on every world Chappelle said before the Comedy Central exodus … what was that? Did he become a uberdouchetard after or was he always that way? And why couldn’t I see it.
I'd say it's more of him taking the wrong lesson from high school. He's one of those celebs who came to fame by creating work that deeply resonated with those who'd been bullied (in this case, stoners and Black kids who know what it's like to be the only Black face around).
But at some point, those celebs (think JK Rowling and Ricky Gervais) have a switch flipped in their brains that says, "Holy shit - I have the power to be the bully this time! Plus, I have money. Having both means I never have to apologise!"
I always think back to that quote from author Robert Caro:
I'm convinced that Chappelle, Rowling, Gervais, and others were sincere when they made the "punching upwards" works that made them famous. But the rarefied air got to their heads and they decided to punch in the other direction.
There is also a non-zero chance that part of it is due to greed.
Background: I spent a LONG time working as a retail grunt. I know what it's like to wish that a literal billionaire would just cut you a check for, like, $40k - they wouldn't even NOTICE it and it could be a (literally!) life-changing amount of money for you. I'm sure that JKR and Chappelle, at least (don't know enough about Gervais's start) have felt similarly from time to time.
But then, all of a sudden, you have fuck-you money. And, with that amount of cash, comes a choice: do you now do (or try to do) for others what you wanted, prayed, desperately wished some zillionaire would do for you back in the beforetimes? Or do you cling to your newfound money and consequent power, to your world where people will give you money to pose for a picture, where they constantly, CONSTANTLY tell you how great of a person you are as they continue giving you money that you can just have, where you can get whatever you want, whenever you want it?
I've always thought that the problem was not power as such but worship. It's the same thing that happens (or used to happen) to rock stars: at some point everyone you meet tells you that you are a god, offers you sexual favours, or both. And certainly they never, ever, tell you that that thing you just said wasn't really right. And sooner or later, because everyone you talk to is like this, you start believing it and everything falls to bits.
-- Robert Ingersoll, 1883
Ijeoma Oluo hits the nail on the head, I think.
"Nearly all men can withstand adversity; If you want to test a man's character, give him power." --Abraham Lincoln
This will have even bigger consequences for Dave Chappelle. People can't understand the reason for inviting Musk on stage in a $280 show and attacking your own viewers.
I mean, has being a complete piece of shit really hurt his career so far?
yeah, i think it was earlier this year that chappelle went back to his high school expecting a softball crowd and got utterly, brutally owned by literal teenagers. if that can’t put a dent in his income i wouldn’t expect this kind of gaffe to even register.
It probably won't show up in any recordings, but I saw Gary Gulman a couple weeks ago and he spent a solid five minutes ripping Chapelle a new one. It was masterful. Other lesser-known comedians (or at least this one) know what a dick he is. Best line: "I don't want to mention any names because this guy is in my industry, but this guy quit the Chapelle Show because someone laughed at a joke in the wrong way."
I guess that's a little funny but it's not really a fair characterization of what I think was a fairly reasonable stated concern from Chapelle at the time: whether what he was creating to be an attack on racism/ugliness was instead doing more to make those bad people happy. It's sort of an amazing thing to think back on when you look at how he behaves and who he's happy to treat like shit now. But as a variation on "are they laughing at me or with me?" question I think it's a pretty admirable one, ethically.
I guess it's an open question, given the 2022 Chapelle, whether that was bullshit/rationalization.
Walking in downtown Palm Springs tonight, people trying to hand me stuff.
"Dave Chappelle? Come see Dave Chappelle?"
"Not in a million years, but thanks."
https://web.archive.org/web/20221212231852/https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602305628734599168
Were I a horrible human being, I would organize a "Tesla and Elon musk superfans CON" at SF.
Presell all the tickets to musk haters, and invite him to be the main attraction. When he gets on stage the lights shut off, booing starts, and when the lights come back on, all the propaganda paintings of him now portray him with Maxwell, all the video screens show burning teslas and all of his fans are flipping him off.
A prop? guillotine gets rolled to the stage and the host starts reading out loud his tweets and people he has retweeted/boosted.
"And for a narcissist?" is the key sentence in all of this.
I figure as a narcissist Musk wants attention. Boooing is attention.
This wasn't tricking him into anything, as Rogers describes it; it's giving him exactly what he wants.
Or, at least, that's the possibility far too many people seem to overlook as they talk about Musk and continue to give him the attention he wants.
In my (somewhat traumatic) experience, narcissists don't just want attention, they want to be worshipped. If you ever have the "pleasure" of working with one, you really don't want to put them in any situation where they might be cast in a bad light. In fact, you don't even want to be near them if they put themselves in that situation: they'll blame you. Even light innocent criticism was enough to set them off. Only (almost) constant praise would keep them calm.
My quick glance says, yeah, looks like positive attention is associated with the formal term narcissist.
I wonder, then, what would be a good term for someone who's just plain a troll, who wants the attention but doesn't care whether it's good or bad.
I think that’s BPD.
Histrionic PD.
Vox populi, vox dei.
The idea of Chappelle and Musk coming out on stage together and getting booed for 10 straight minutes by a crowd that paid to see Chappelle in SF would have seemed like pure insanity to me just 4 years ago. Hell, it would have seemed insane 2 years ago. And yet, here we are.
Chappelle is just lost. Chappelle bringing out the richest and most annoying douchebag on earth and then shitting on people for being "poor" (poor enough for a >$200 ticket) is just fucked. It just breaks my head. Power and fame is just pure poison for most people.