Fucking Adobe.

Dear Lazyweb,

I have Lightroom 6.5.1 working on a 64 bit Intel Mac running 12.4. After migrating to an M1 Ultra, it no longer works. Suggestions?

I have verified that all the files (app as well as preferences) are unchanged. This page suggested hacking "AMT/application.xml" to mark the license accepted, but that didn't help.

By "Migrate" I mean "I restored all apps and users from a Time Machine backup", so everything should be where it was.

It's crashing in dylib:load_images. The crash log mentions rosetta/runtime so I assume that got loaded properly.

It's a 64 bit app with a 32 bit installer, so the only way to keep it running is to migrate it after it has already been installed, or so the legend goes.

Previously, previously.

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15 Responses:

  1. mty says:
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    It astonishes me how many people realise that Adobe sucks yet keeps using their products.

    • tfb says:
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      I don't use Adobe products, because as you say, they suck.  As a result of that decision I have, in the last decade

      • migrated stuff out of Aperture when Apple dropped that on the floor;
      • migrated stuff out of some other tool when that was orphaned;
      • migrated stuff out of the tool I migrated things into when the previous tool was orphaned when that in turn was orphaned;
      • during the process of all this gradually evolved a filesystem-and-exiftool based cataloguing system for photographs which I am reasonably sure won't get orphaned while I'm still alive;
      • spent a bunch of time working out how to pipe stuff from that long-term filing system into Photos so that I had some better visual way of selecting images I care about even though I am not, ever, using Photos for long-term storage after the Aperture disaster;
      • discovered that the whole 'just keep a pointer to the original to not end up with two copies' thing that Photos can do doesn't work for opaque reasons if the originals are in an inconvenient directory (I think if it has to cross a mount point?  even though that mount point is just an artifact of how the filesystem works on recent macOS), so now I have two copies of everything.
      Needless to say I really enjoyed all this extra work, all the retagging of things, all the living in fear that I might be losing images or information.  It's not like I had anything better to do.

      Or, you know, I could just have bought lightroom in 2010 or whenever, paid the Adobe tax and had something that worked.

      (And please, don't spout 'oh you could just use whatever shit lightroom knockoff runs on whatever Linux distribution is fashionable this week'.  Because just, no.  Lightroom is a pain I am sure, and I know Macs are a pain.  But they will work for more than two years before some cretin decides that 'oh, all that ancient stuff we don't need to care about that any more' and reinvents the wheel, yet again.)

      • Carlos says:
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        Amen.  I'm Linux-only and have been for 20+ years.  I generally don't run into too many problems.  But the CADT effects can be absolutely brutal, and I completely understand when others are reluctant to use something other than Windows or Mac because of it.

        Music library/organizer?  Had one that was fantastic.  Next version of it removed almost all the useful features, like "library" and "organizer" so that it was just a music player.  I ran the old version for more than a decade in a dedicated VM because the platform had evolved to be incompatible, and the new version never did regain the powers of the original.

        Photo library/organizer?  The "official" one for the desktop environment was great.  Used it for years.  Then they said "nope, that's old and busted, here's the new hotness" and again, it's not nearly as featureful or usable as the previous version.  Years later, it's gotten somewhat better, but still not as good as the previous project.

        Ad infinitum, ad nauseum...

        C.

      • mty says:
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        I’m using digikam + rawtherapee for, no idea, 10-15 years? I tried lightroom and it’s way of organising your pictures is way worse than digikam’s.

  2. Glaurung says:

    It's remotely possible that a later version of lightroom 6 might have a 64 bit installer?  See here for how to download lightroom 6.14 (despite the word "windows" in the URL, it has a currently working link for the mac version as well):

    https://photorumors.com/2020/12/31/how-download-adobe-lightroom-6-for-windows-hidden-link/

    • jwz says:
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      Even if that worked, that is the monthly subscription version that stores all of your photos in The Clown.

      • Glaurung says:

        No.  

        The webpage specifically states that the links are to version 6, the same version you are using and the last version to be "pay once, keep forever."   6.5.1 (what you said you have) is not the final release of v6.  6.14 is.  Maybe the 6.14 installer plays nicer with 64 bit only macs. It's worth a try.

        • jwz says:
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          That sounds like an enormous pain in the ass. Adobe's installers are a swamp even under the best of circumstances. Other people appear to have migrated installed versions of this rev from x86 to M1 without re-installing, and in fact, claim that that's the only way to do it. So I would like to know what they did that I didn't.

        • dzm says:
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          Downloaded. Installer is a 32-bit Intel application. Will not run.

  3. Cailín says:

    Assuming your aversion to the newer subscription version of Lightroom is that it is a horrific cloud-based monstrosity that isn't as good as the old Lightroom just be aware that there is also a "Lightroom Classic" which is still actively maintained and is the continuation of the old and not-terrible version of Lightroom.

    • jwz says:
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      I believe "classic" is also phone-home monthly-rental surveillance-ware. I'm not giving these pigfuckers another dime as long as I live.

      I have a working piece of software that I would like to keep working.

  4. someguy says:

    Assuming getting Adobe crapware working cross-architecture is an exercise in futility, would an alternative suffice? I've found https://www.darktable.org/ to be decent.

  5. pf says:

    I hate the juxtaposition of a likely answer to this question, emulation, with the adjacent question *about* emulation, to which the answer is "nope."

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/458856-my-dear-here-we-must-run-as-fast-as-we

  6. jwz says:
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    I still don't understand why this dumb thing won't launch for me, when other people seem to have it working. Help, help.

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