Today in Youtube's joke of a fair-use appeal process

This is my life now. Something coming up on our calendar means I get to do this dance three times a day. How many clicks is that? Like a million?

The thing I pasted says:

DNA Lounge is a concert venue. This video contains extremely brief clips from videos of bands who are booked to perform live at this venue in the coming weeks.

These bands are putting on live shows on our stage. We are using these videos to get people to show up and pay money to the bands who made them.

This is literally why music videos were invented.

This is the 27th time I have submitted this same dispute, with no response. Apparently your robots are going to do this every single time I post a video. That's fabulous.

And then one or two of the three claimants autoresponds, "After reviewing [sic] your dispute, SME has decided that their copyright claim is still valid" and I have to log back in and do a similar but ever-so-slightly different dance.

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7 Responses:

  1. Jered says:

    We're Google. We don't care; we don't have to.

  2. Jonny says:

    Is there an X number of appeals before it hits some limit and they give up because the next step is a lawsuit? What happens when you appeal their reassertion that their claim is valid?

    It's too bad we basically have nearly hegemonic world wide copyright system enforced by agreements between corporations. I would have liked to have seen someone give Lawrence Lessig's copyright utopia a try.

    • Tari says:

      If the claimant rejects your claim and you reject their rejection, they have a set time (on the order of weeks) to respond with a lawsuit against you, otherwise the video is restored.

  3. Patrick says:

    I wonder if anyone has figured out how to automate the client end of the dispute process. I mean, it only seems fair to fight robots with robots.

  4. Brian says:

    I often have to repeatedly interact with dumb browser-based systems. If you're using a Mac (looks like you are), get `cliclick`. Write a script like...
    cliclick 500 200
    sleep 3
    cliclick 400 300
    sleep 2
    etc. Alternate between sleeps and clicks. Click on a thing, give it a few seconds to load the next page.

    • k3ninho says:

      I've been paid to maintain this sort of thing, tools and tech have not stood still with the ways you can drive a browser from a script. If we're lucky, there's a reliable label on the buttons we need (say for a screen reader) and we can make our script get the web browser to use those buttons.


  5. Constitutional Origamist says:

    Your mistake here is assuming that music videos exist to make a band money. These days they exist to make the label money. The band isn't the product anymore. The brand is the product. The medium is the massage.

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