Uber still literally trying to murder you

Nobody else on the road agreed to be a participant in the alpha-test of this software.

Uber to Suspend Autonomous Tests After Arizona Accident

Uber is suspending its self-driving car program after one of its autonomous vehicles was involved in a high-impact crash in Tempe, Arizona, the latest incident for a company reeling from multiple crises.

In a photo posted on Twitter, one of Uber's Volvo self-driving SUVs is pictured on its side next to another car with dents and smashed windows. [...]

Uber began testing self-driving cars in Pittsburgh last year and soon expanded to Arizona, after its self-driving cars were banned from San Francisco's streets in December by the California Department of Motor Vehicles.

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20 Responses:

  1. jimbob says:

    Nitpick - they aren't trying to kill me, they just don't greatly care if something happens and I die as a result.

  2. Andrew says:

    I'm no apologist for uber, however the initial reports have the Tempe PD saying the uber car was not found at fault, presumably taken from the report written by the cops on the scene.

    • MattyJ says:

      I'd like more details. Word is that the other car 'failed to yield' to the Uber car, which is fine, but typically when someone does that to me I don't smash into them and flip on my side.

      • Elizabeth Myers says:

        Most people just slam on the brakes when this happens. It is obvious by the whole roll-over thing this did not happen. Not yielding may technically make the other driver at fault, but the accident was probably avoidable anyway.

        People do stupid things, self-driving cars need to take this into account. And no, the answer is "just make everyone drive a self-driving car" because in the short term 75% of Americans don't trust them. And in my opinion, rightly so.

        • Andrew says:

          Definitely need more details to really understand, perhaps the other car failed to yield at high speed?

        • Matthew Platte says:

          If one's done any bicycle commuting at all, one quickly learns no car can be trusted, even if one has made eye contact with the four-wheeled death machine operator.

          • Andrew says:

            I acquired that mentality once I started riding a motorcycle, and it stays with me even when I drive my car now.

          • pavel_lishin says:

            To quote Neal Stephenson,

            I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. My nighttime attitude is, anyone can run you down and get away with it. Why give some drunk the chance to plaster me against a car? That's why I don't even own a bike light, or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe--to see you, and to give a fuck--you've already blown it.

            • I used to night-ride like that, in fact I may well have assimilated the idea from this book. Then I realized that lights are actually for other cyclists, not for drivers.

          • thielges says:

            Very true. Anyone successful getting around on two wheels has developed a heightened sense of situational awareness.

            My advice to bikers is to be as visible as possible but still assume you're invisible. Every once and a while a driver apologizes after a close call with "I didn't see you". Well it would help if you looked.

      • Cowmix says:

        Well, these self-driving cars all have TONS of cameras on them that records from all angles. Dash-cams on crack.

        I should be pretty ez to find out what happened.

        • Jeremy Leader says:

          It should be easy for the owner of those cameras to find out what happened. Fortunately, said owner is a vehement proponent of openness and of corporations taking full responsibility for any damage caused by their actions, and so wouldn resist the temptation to bury or destroy or deny the existence of those records.

          Or not.

  3. Topaz says:

    At what point do posts about Uber start getting the killdozer tag?

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