10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman

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  1. Manuel says:

    Please help me understand. Isn't Manhattan one of the better areas ?
    Would it be the same in other/better areas ?
    Is this normal, or does this "normally" not happen (that badly) because walking through the city happens by itself seldom?

    • Laura Rubin says:

      It is the same no matter where women walk. This would happen wherever she walked - no matter the part of the city, whether good nor bad - with differing degrees of actual physical danger. It's the same in any heavily pedestrian city.

      • NB says:

        Per the MetaFilter thread on this video, it doesn't really depend on whether cities are heavily pedestrian.

        Those, by the way, are comments worth reading, probably only because of MeFi's moderators.

        • nooj says:

          I don't know how worth reading they are, because you get elitists like Amanda Palmer saying, "Hurr durr, does that ever work?" Why yes, Amanda, being talkative and approaching women unsolicited is a successful and appropriate method of meeting them.

    • gryazi says:

      Actually, Manhattan was kind of known for this, at least as much as ... anywhere else? I mean, Times Square used to be a thing. And where did the stereotype of whistling construction workers get started or at least incorporated into the canon of advertising?

      I can't find general figures for crimes against women, but you had to be kind of committed to live in the city in the '70s and '80s. But commuting through all that to get to the right office tower was still a status-symbol.

  2. James says:

    I wonder whether a younger guy in a suit making a comment about the weather while waiting for a light to change at a corner would have been included. I'm not saying it's classist for not including small talk that the film makers didn't have consider harassment; it's just that I get verbosely gregarious in public in a gender-indiscriminate fashion because I like to explain hopeful solutions as tersely as possible, because it helps me edit Wikipedia. Yes really, but after watching this I feel far more self-conscious about it. I'm sure I must have creeped someone out by explaining the power-to-gas and gas-to-liquids from nighttime wind around Stuttgart by now, but most people react positively and that increases with practice. I'm sure if I offered to compensate them for acting as a guinea pig sounding board that would be orders of magnitude more creepy than most of the guys in the video.

  3. Tom Lord says:

    The Problem With That Catcalling Video: They editted Out the White Guys

    He wrote, “we got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera” or was ruined by a siren or other noise. The final product, he writes, “is not a perfect representation of everything that happened.” That may be true but if you find yourself editing out all the catcalling white guys, maybe you should try another take.

    Apparently the video was produced by a marketing firm, by the way.

    Emmett Louis Till (July 25, 1941 – August 28, 1955) was an African-American teenager who was murdered in Mississippi at the age of 14 after reportedly flirting with a white woman.

    • nooj says:

      I don't think the race thing is a big deal. Every guy and girl of every race who sees that video knows it's reasonably accurate at least.

      A bigger problem is it only tells part of a story, and people's reaction to it is to say men should never approach strange women.

      Another problem is the people who are least likely to change their behavior as a result of the conversation(s) surrounding this video and other "rape culture" commentary, are the ones who need to change the most.