Dropped blink effect from text-decoration: blink; and completely removed <blink> element
Of course, still works on my sites. And with proper MILSPEC 3 units on, 1 unit off timing, as is right and proper, and which I believe the non-Unix versions of Netscape Navigator never got right, back then.
Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
But "rumble" and "shudder" are the new hotness.
oh really !
All my web sites are broken now. RIP GEOCITIES
http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/
I for one welcome this new age where older websites are unable resemble geriatric drivers with their turn signals left on for dozens of kilometers!
Countdown to somebody writing a Firefox plug-in to "fix" this: I bet three days.
gawww.. geocitiesizer.. >_<
Back in my day all frames had a slider bar if they needed it or not.
Moar frames! let them cover the entire page!
Frames and tables for all!
........Tables? What are you, new around here?
I also missed my
crap, now i don't have any tags to use in Frontpage.
Wait, the blinking is supposed to have a specific duty cycle?
I think I'm going to have to go modify code now.
jwz on MIL-SPEC blinking (and epilepsy).
I was a neuro tech for a long time, doing tests for epilepsy. A 1Hz blink can trigger a seizure, but only in a vanishingly small number of epileptics and only if it's sustained - photosensitive epileptics (far from all epileptics) usually need at least 8-10Hz strobing before epileptic activity rises. The common range is ~12-16.
All this being said, have a 3:1 duty cycle is better UX anyway - the blink off works as the attention-grabbing highlight, and the longer duration on allows what's highlighted to be more easily read.
For some reason my message isn't present in that thread, thanks to Google bitrot. But Trammell dug it out of archive.org:
MIL STD 1472F says:
"If cautions take the form of flashing text, the text should flash
at a rate not greater than 2 Hz with ON/OFF interval of about 70% on."
References:
[1] "Department of Defense Design Criteria Standard: Human Engineering", MIL-STD-1472F, 23 August 1999.
1999! No wonder I couldn't find that when I went searching for it in 1994!
The "F" at the end is a version specifier. In this pdf, dated 1978, there is a reference to MIL-STD-1472b. So the standard has been around a long time, it probably just wasn't on the internet.
MIL-STD-1472 looks like it dates to 1968.
1472D (from here) is dated 1989 and says (page 35, section 5.2.2.1.19, flashing lights) "the flash rate shall be within 3 to 5 flashes per second with approximately equal amounts of ON and OFF time," and the same again in section 5.15.3.3.2.
1472E (from here) is dated 1996 and says the same thing.
These do not match the information provided to Netscape. Maybe a different military standard? I can't find a copy of 1472C (1981) to see if it's any different.
Don't worry, the light will be back. Then gone again. Then back. Then gone. Back, gone, back, gone, back, gone ....
Angelfire too has shed a tear...
What's next? Global removal of all animated gifs?
#Travesty
support should be dropped for one release out of every four.
Genius.
I don't mean to be the grumpy old man here, but the web was better when it was (a) less standardized and (b) less oriented toward display formats and more oriented toward content. At some point, probably around 1999, the shark was jumped. We had enough layout to make content look good, but we kept pushing until we re-invented daytime television. Except now it's interactive.
I hear ya and agree 100%. I think (and hope) it's just a fad.
First it was bad html (well, it WAS) with bad content, but it was new and online and cool, so people went for it.
Then it was bad html with good content. It was interesting to read, but murder on the eyes.
Now, it's good html with bad content. It's more pleasing to see, takes more 'new' knowledge, etc.
Hopefully the future will bring good html with good content. And then we can all be enlightened in the way of a good message and beautifully crafted presentations. :)
> Now, it's good html with bad content.
No, that's bullshit. Sure, the percentage of good/bad has probably decreased, but that's just because it's easier to toss content up. This is somewhat akin to saying that literature suffered when more people learned to read and write, because now any jerk could keep a diary.
Yeah, I hang out on 4chan a lot too.
For sale: http://imgur.com/a/NuaWM
The web browser appliance will not be complete until it implements the creation of real time odors. I think an <odor tag is needed.
A simple javascript loop could push out in quick succession the odors of putrid rotting anus, rose water, cut grass, dog turds, orange blossom and rank vagina.
Why are you throwing away God's love and making Him loath you. This is sad. God says...
C:\TAD\Text\PLATO.TXT
rue of imitation; no one man can imitate
many things as well as he would imitate a single one?
He cannot.
Then the same person will hardly be able to play a serious part in life,
and at the same time to be an imitator and imitate many other parts
as well; for even when two species of imitation are nearly allied,
the same persons cannot succeed in both, as, for example, the writers
of tragedy and comedy--did you not just now call them imitations?
Yes, I did; and you are right in thinking that
hacker news is leaking again.
You're crazy if the radio talks to you, says the radio. You fucken morons are atheist! BA HA HA
God says...
C:\TAD\Text\WEALTH.TXT
at revenue.
The fixed capital, and that part of the circulating capital which
consists in money, so far as they affect the revenue of the society,
bear a very great resemblance to one another.
First, as those machines and instruments of trade, etc. require a
certain expense, first to erect them, and afterwards to support
them, both which expenses, though they make a part of the gross, are
deductions from the neat revenue of the society; so the stock of money
which circulates in any country must
Have you eaten your stew, Brother Terrence?
The world is perfectly just. If you deprive me of money and glory, God will make it up to me, probably can't go well for you. Artists have longer life without money, most likely.
God says...
C:\TAD\Text\BIBLE.TXT
: ye have done all this
wickedness: yet turn not aside from following the LORD, but serve the
LORD with all your heart; 12:21 And turn ye not aside: for then should
ye go after vain things, which cannot profit nor deliver; for they are
vain.
12:22 For the LORD will not forsake his people for his great name's
sake: because it hath pleased the LORD to make you his people.
12:23 Moreover as for me, God forbid that I should sin against the
LORD in ceasing to pray for you: but I will teach you the g
Of course they also removed the option to turn off javascript, which Philip Greenspun aptly called "the blink tag writ large". I.e. they have simply gone on to bigger and better things.
CSS animations bring us things more annoying than blink and can't be turned off; JavaScript does the same and gets turned permanently on, even if you previously had it turned off; But blink? Had to go. It was too mundane.
You can kill CSS animations with your browser's dev tools, not that that's something that's easy to do a lot. In theory, the browser style sheet should override this as well, although the same caveat applies.
* { animation: none !important; }does indeed stop the movement, but "find userContent.css; paste in magic line; restart browser" is even less user-friendly than about:config -> image.animation_mode -> change to "once". Though I suppose Stylish largely fixes that...Dagnabbit, I was trying to be angry here and you had to go and provide solutions!
Not only blink, the firefox guys changed ESCAPE so it will no longer stop animated images. Apparently they want ESCAPE to be able to be trapped by web developers for other purposes. As a user, I can't imagine a good reason.
I filed a bug, and since they closed it as a dupe, I've been receiving a constant stream of updates every few days from people filing new duplicates wondering why they couldn't stop idiotic animated gifs.
SuperStop seems to work reasonably well, although it requires hitting shift-esc.
Sigh the Tumblr kids just think they are animated gifs.
Experimented a little with the 'rumble' one
Like y/n?
Indeed, it is the end of days!
"And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days."
-- from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10
Now let's hope they don't kill other tags! (marquee, et cetera).
Also...marquee is a disallowed tag here. :(