They've screwed this pooch so completely that I'm starting to wonder whether other search engines still actually exist. Turns out those are hard to Google for.
Find the image I care about. Click. Wait. Wait. Wait. Oh, a trendy pseudo-pop-up-window over a grayed-out web page. Right click to do "Save Image As". No, they seem to have intentionally disqabled that. Click. Click again. How the fuck do I dismiss this popup? Oh, I guess I actually have to use the fake-Windows close box. Click. What's it doing? Click. Why the fuck do I have a hypnowheel spinner now? Click. Oh, there it goes. Oh, now it's reloading the whole page. Where's the image I was just looking at? Oh great, now I'm expected to scroll twelve pages down through the document to find it visually. Thanks a whole fucking lot.
It's actually hard to imagine how they could have made this worse.
Oh but it does crash the browser, especially on slow links. I guess browsers can't handle being told to background load 500 images in a rapidly expanding scrolling mess.
I like to hit the link at the bottom to make the old version come back. If we all do that, maybe they'll take a hint.
You want the tiny "Full-size image" link from the right-hand bar of the screen with the overlay.
There is in fact no change of functionality at all - you can find all the same information and do all the same things in the same places. But I only realised that - with surprise - when I enumerated them. They managed to make it confusing with identical functionality. Total usability fail.
'Save Image As' seems to work fine for me in Firefox 3.6 / Chrome on Ubuntu. Maybe there's some anti-saving Javascript on the page from your search result, and the Google overlay happens to be respecting it?
I actually like the new search better, CPU and bandwidth hog that it is. The overlay thing feels better to me than the "this is an image search result" top frame from the old version, which would follow you around forever if you navigated in the lower frame, only to awkwardly bring you back to the original result if you ever hit 'Remove Frame'.
Refreshing the whole page after clicking the 'x' does seem overkill, though.
The refresh is inevitable for fixing the URL in the browser address bar.
And it is exactly the same action in all its consequences as clicking "Remove frame" used to be.
That's the surprising thing - as I said -: if you actually look at it, you will find the new GIS is identical to the old GIS in every aspect except the confusion.
The refresh is inevitable for fixing the URL in the browser address bar.
Terrifyingly, this is no longer true. Flickr (ab)uses this to avoid a reload when switching between different sets on the same image: see for example this image and click between the various sets it's in.
Wait, yes, there is one difference - and one that would be construed as a good one IMO: you cannot navigate in the content of the original page while the overlay is up, where previously you could navigate in the bottom frame, as you pointed out. So they improved it while making it worse!
Refreshing the whole page after clicking the 'x' does seem overkill, though.
I agree with jwz, the new search is an utter PITA, with one exception: Somehow it's either not actually loading the full page, or Google is proxying it initially. I haven't done any research to figure out what's going on behind the scenes, but what I do know is that using the permit-cookie addon to filter cookies doesn't prompt me for cookies when I look at the image, but does when I close the preview and go to the page for real. So it's slightly more private, at least.
right click -> save image as still works for me on goog image search. are you sure it wasn't just the override of that particular websites html preventing you from saving that image?
searching on 'image search engine' is going to yield you a lot of stock photo websites which is probably not what you are looking for. i know picsearch is supposed to be good (http://www.picsearch.com/) but i always find their interface clunky, even though it mimics old google image search, so you might prefer it.
Right-click on the image is working okay for me. As for the rest of it, I could forgo having to load the page twice - if I want the page for some reason - but otherwise it works as before, and I'm already used to it.
I absolutely agree in every particular. I hate it with a vengeance. noscript will make it so you see the old style search, I believe, but noscript itself is a PITA to deal with. Maybe you could use it just for google images.
Strangely, google.co.uk has the old-school GIS, with actual pages and links and frames. Which is weird, cause it was on the new format earlier this week. Google.com still has the fancy new stuff.
Google search in general seems to change for me at random. Like I'll search and get domain results all indented, and then an hour later I'll search again, and they'll be organised differently.
I'm scrolling slowly through the images (with two finger scroll on the touchpad) to find the one I want. I don't want to obscure the image I'm looking at with the mouse pointer, so the mouse pointer is over an image that isn't the image I'm looking at. Therefore, an image that is not the one I'm interested in is the one that suddenly explodes in my face and obscures what I actually care about. It's unbelievably unhelpful.
Also, when you click into the search field and move the cursor away (like, down over the search results) the popup preview will steal focus from the search field.
For me, scrolling with two fingers doesn't trigger the pop-up... I have to move the cursor slightly after scrolling for that. Is it popping up for you after just scrolling or scrolling + cursor move? Out of curiosity, which browser and OS are you using? Thanks.
I don't know what browser or OS you're running, or if it even should make a difference; but I'm running Firefox 3.5.2 with NoScript; google does NOT have permission to run Javascript. I haven't seen their image search page change at all. So I'm guessing if you disable Javascript it'll work like it used to.
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Wow. Yeah, I think you want to disable javascript and that'll do it. I just turned it on to see what the image search looks like and wow, yeah nothankyou donotwant.
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Also, annoying to turn on javascript to make this comment.
I've had some pretty good results on Bing lately, especially for wonky things like scheduling flights with strange requirements or finding technical docs for old bikes.
Those pop-ups drive me insane, I want to find the person or persons who decided to make them popular and hurt them very badly. It's right up there with social network integration - and that's rapidly moving to be on par with e-mail in your law of software envelopment. I almost screamed with rage when my company decided to use Salesforce's new pseudo-Twitter feature "Chatter."
I almost screamed with rage when my company decided to use Salesforce's new pseudo-Twitter feature "Chatter."
Fuck Salesforce, even without that "Chatter" bullshit. SF is continually changing their interface, and they somehow manage to make it worse with every iteration. I'd managed to avoid any meaningful contact with it for a couple of months, and after having to use it this week to unsuccessfully try and find information that I knew for a fact was there (and had found with previous versions of the interface), I fail to see any utility in it whatsoever.
They've screwed this pooch so completely that I'm starting to wonder whether other search engines still actually exist. Turns out those are hard to Google for.
And that thing I used to do where I'd control-click a bunch of pages so they'd load in the background is gone. Now I have to scroll down and wait for the damned thumbnails to load. No matter how fast my connection is, nothing is as fast as "already loaded."
I know, right? It's like they want me to use Bing.
Didn't they steal the continuous-scrolling no-image-information shtick from Bing?
Yep
Any specifics? It's been working okay for me.
Find the image I care about. Click. Wait. Wait. Wait. Oh, a trendy pseudo-pop-up-window over a grayed-out web page. Right click to do "Save Image As". No, they seem to have intentionally disqabled that. Click. Click again. How the fuck do I dismiss this popup? Oh, I guess I actually have to use the fake-Windows close box. Click. What's it doing? Click. Why the fuck do I have a hypnowheel spinner now? Click. Oh, there it goes. Oh, now it's reloading the whole page. Where's the image I was just looking at? Oh great, now I'm expected to scroll twelve pages down through the document to find it visually. Thanks a whole fucking lot.
It's actually hard to imagine how they could have made this worse.
They could have done it in flash! And then crash the browser somehow!
Oh but it does crash the browser, especially on slow links. I guess browsers can't handle being told to background load 500 images in a rapidly expanding scrolling mess.
I like to hit the link at the bottom to make the old version come back. If we all do that, maybe they'll take a hint.
You want the tiny "Full-size image" link from the right-hand bar of the screen with the overlay.
There is in fact no change of functionality at all - you can find all the same information and do all the same things in the same places. But I only realised that - with surprise - when I enumerated them. They managed to make it confusing with identical functionality. Total usability fail.
'Save Image As' seems to work fine for me in Firefox 3.6 / Chrome on Ubuntu. Maybe there's some anti-saving Javascript on the page from your search result, and the Google overlay happens to be respecting it?
I actually like the new search better, CPU and bandwidth hog that it is. The overlay thing feels better to me than the "this is an image search result" top frame from the old version, which would follow you around forever if you navigated in the lower frame, only to awkwardly bring you back to the original result if you ever hit 'Remove Frame'.
Refreshing the whole page after clicking the 'x' does seem overkill, though.
The refresh is inevitable for fixing the URL in the browser address bar.
And it is exactly the same action in all its consequences as clicking "Remove frame" used to be.
That's the surprising thing - as I said -: if you actually look at it, you will find the new GIS is identical to the old GIS in every aspect except the confusion.
Terrifyingly, this is no longer true. Flickr (ab)uses this to avoid a reload when switching between different sets on the same image: see for example this image and click between the various sets it's in.
Wait, yes, there is one difference - and one that would be construed as a good one IMO: you cannot navigate in the content of the original page while the overlay is up, where previously you could navigate in the bottom frame, as you pointed out. So they improved it while making it worse!
Refreshing the whole page after clicking the 'x' does seem overkill, though.
I agree with jwz, the new search is an utter PITA, with one exception: Somehow it's either not actually loading the full page, or Google is proxying it initially. I haven't done any research to figure out what's going on behind the scenes, but what I do know is that using the permit-cookie addon to filter cookies doesn't prompt me for cookies when I look at the image, but does when I close the preview and go to the page for real. So it's slightly more private, at least.
right click -> save image as still works for me on goog image search. are you sure it wasn't just the override of that particular websites html preventing you from saving that image?
searching on 'image search engine' is going to yield you a lot of stock photo websites which is probably not what you are looking for. i know picsearch is supposed to be good (http://www.picsearch.com/) but i always find their interface clunky, even though it mimics old google image search, so you might prefer it.
I work for picsearch.com. If you have any particular complaints, I can forward them to the guy sitting across from me.
Right-click on the image is working okay for me. As for the rest of it, I could forgo having to load the page twice - if I want the page for some reason - but otherwise it works as before, and I'm already used to it.
I absolutely agree in every particular. I hate it with a vengeance. noscript will make it so you see the old style search, I believe, but noscript itself is a PITA to deal with. Maybe you could use it just for google images.
Strangely, google.co.uk has the old-school GIS, with actual pages and links and frames. Which is weird, cause it was on the new format earlier this week. Google.com still has the fancy new stuff.
Google search in general seems to change for me at random. Like I'll search and get domain results all indented, and then an hour later I'll search again, and they'll be organised differently.
The mouseover pop-up is massive fail for me.
I'm scrolling slowly through the images (with two finger scroll on the touchpad) to find the one I want. I don't want to obscure the image I'm looking at with the mouse pointer, so the mouse pointer is over an image that isn't the image I'm looking at. Therefore, an image that is not the one I'm interested in is the one that suddenly explodes in my face and obscures what I actually care about. It's unbelievably unhelpful.
Does anyone like mouseover popup previews?
Also, when you click into the search field and move the cursor away (like, down over the search results) the popup preview will steal focus from the search field.
I HATE that. I have to strategically get the pointer over far enough right to avoid all images, or I'm a huffing, sighing, angry person every time.
For me, scrolling with two fingers doesn't trigger the pop-up... I have to move the cursor slightly after scrolling for that. Is it popping up for you after just scrolling or scrolling + cursor move? Out of curiosity, which browser and OS are you using? Thanks.
On mouseover, so if I'm scrolling slow enough to give it time, it pops up wherever my cursor is.
http://www.altavista.com/
http://webcrawler.com/
and the new
http://www.ask.com/
Yup. And WHY, WHY? It worked so well before! [grumble]
As a incurable image thief, I agree that the new layout is fucking terrible and stupid. Very un-Googly.
However, they offer a solution.
At the bottom, click "Switch to basic version":
Then at the right side when the image pops up:
I believe it saves your preferences if you log in. They should just switch back to the basic one, though.
I really wish they'd cooperate with the
CustomizeGoogleOptimizeGoogle team. Who knows what's too much to ask for these days?I don't know what browser or OS you're running, or if it even should make a difference; but I'm running Firefox 3.5.2 with NoScript; google does NOT have permission to run Javascript. I haven't seen their image search page change at all. So I'm guessing if you disable Javascript it'll work like it used to.
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Wow. Yeah, I think you want to disable javascript and that'll do it. I just turned it on to see what the image search looks like and wow, yeah nothankyou donotwant.
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Also, annoying to turn on javascript to make this comment.
I've had some pretty good results on Bing lately, especially for wonky things like scheduling flights with strange requirements or finding technical docs for old bikes.
Traitor.
Serious, I've been getting less spammy results with bing lately especially when search for information on computer components. It's unnerving.
Those pop-ups drive me insane, I want to find the person or persons who decided to make them popular and hurt them very badly. It's right up there with social network integration - and that's rapidly moving to be on par with e-mail in your law of software envelopment. I almost screamed with rage when my company decided to use Salesforce's new pseudo-Twitter feature "Chatter."
I almost screamed with rage when my company decided to use Salesforce's new pseudo-Twitter feature "Chatter."
Fuck Salesforce, even without that "Chatter" bullshit. SF is continually changing their interface, and they somehow manage to make it worse with every iteration. I'd managed to avoid any meaningful contact with it for a couple of months, and after having to use it this week to unsuccessfully try and find information that I knew for a fact was there (and had found with previous versions of the interface), I fail to see any utility in it whatsoever.
They've screwed this pooch so completely that I'm starting to wonder whether other search engines still actually exist. Turns out those are hard to Google for.
That's a poem, right there.
Google search FUBAR.
Do other tools still exist?
Hard to Google for.
And that thing I used to do where I'd control-click a bunch of pages so they'd load in the background is gone. Now I have to scroll down and wait for the damned thumbnails to load. No matter how fast my connection is, nothing is as fast as "already loaded."
Also, it appears one can no longer search "Google Groups" (i.e., Usenet archives) without being signed into a Google account.