I'll be hanging this sign all over @dnalounge, just to be safe.

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18 Responses:

  1. phoenixredux says:

    Really? I've always been rather partial to this one, myself:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    • giles says:

      Congress tends not to cut much ice with the Metropolitan Police.

    • supersat says:

      The MPS is in the UK. It's also sneakily worded to imply that accessing lots of content is illegal, when in fact, all they can do is kick you out.

      • ianhess says:

        Most of the current url classification software has granular enough categories that they really could have alerts sent to a terminal or pager when someone accesses child porn, hate speech, etc. Thus, if they cared, they could report that internet use.

        I find it obnoxious that this is probably their attempt at limiting liability.

      • phoenixredux says:

        It's worded broadly enough to cover just about everything on the Net, really. "Offensive" is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I find their whole click-wrapped door pretty offensive. But I'll bet they wouldn't take themselves offline if I went in there and complained.

    • wdr1 says:

      Last I checked, the US Constitution doesn't apply in London.

      • jwz says:

        Last I checked, you were the third person to say this in this thread. Congratulations caller three.

      • mentallill says:

        But something that's much better than that moldy old constitution applies, as the euroenthusiasts will tell you: the European Convention on Human Rights.

        1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.

        That's not so bad, and it even specifically protects your right to your very own thoughts, very thoughtfully. It could get a lot worse than th

        This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

        2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

        In summary, and in order to invoke Godwin as soon as possible, free speech can be restricted for all the reasons the Nazis did, plus any and all new reasons deemed "necessary in a democratic society". So can your freedom to hold opinions, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities.

      • phoenixredux says:

        I wasn't talking about London, I was talking about hanging such notices in the DNA Lounge. Thanks.

  2. latemodel says:

    It's probably a CYA statement. But I could see, in principle, putting up a similarly gaudy sign to draw attention to the policing practices. Sort of the equivalent of your telco saying, "hey, be sure to call your congressperson and thank them for the illegal wiretaps we're doing."

    Then again, the UK tends to be a bit less fundamentalist about free speech than the US.

  3. mcity says:

    Is it weird that I was able to tell this was British by the font?

    • erorus says:

      The typeface made me suspicious that it was British, but the spelling of "offence" made me sure.

    • You shut your mouth!

      Gotham has been claimed by America since 2008. It's the typeface of Hope and Change.

      Ugly ass Gill Sans - now that's British. Keep Calm and Carry On.

  4. hasimir says:

    Do we get bonus points for using clues in the reflected background to find the name and address of the business with the sign (with the aid of Google Earth)?

    The sign isn't visible in Street View (it must be new), but it's still easy to see that it's "Modern Trends Complete Business Service" in Leather Lane, Camden.

  5. fnivramd says:

    Doesn't America do signs like this? For example, the industrial estate near my house has posters which remind people that police enforce the law against kerb crawling. I've never seen anyone being arrested, and the streetwalkers are still there, rain or shine, despite the posters.

    Or, a teenager died here after drinking too much. For a while after that, every drinking establishment had posters reminding people that there's a law against selling booze to underage kids and it is enforced by the police. Who was this poster aimed at - patrons? bouncers? the owner? I don't know, the same poster went up in the bearded real ale pub which probably hasn't served anyone under 30 this century, and the club where everybody knows half the patrons use fake IDs. Business as usual, but with a new poster.

    Posters are cheap. Enforcing unpopular laws is expensive. The police have plenty of beatings, thefts and criminal damage cases to investigate in this city without prosecuting drunk 14 year olds and middle aged men willing to pay for sex (at least unless they're paying the drunk 14 year olds). Prosecutions for looking at 4chan? Yeah, right after they nab someone for not having their dog on a leash.

  6. erdrick says:

    No data of an "innappropriate" nature.

    Don't make hotel reservations on their connection. You'll end up in gaol.

  7. giantlaser says:

    And you still haven't put this behind a "random redirect" web proxy?