Fucking Facebook.

For a site that wants to track my every click from cradle to grave, Facebook seems oddly unwilling to actually keep me logged in for more than an hour. Well done, you pinheads.
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11 Responses:

  1. herbie says:

    I saw the subject, and was really hoping for an instructional post or a HOWTO. Oh well.

    FWIW, I have experienced this in the past, too, although I think stopping using the Facebook chat protocol in Adium and switching to Jabber helped.

  2. xephyr says:

    My uncle asked me yesterday if I thought FB might someday replace Google. When the laughter died down, I replied, "Only if FB gets a clue about product management, but I don't see that happening anytime soon."

  3. miguelitosd says:

    Yeah... I love that the app on the i* devices will keep you logged in forever. Not via the web (despite clicking the "remember me" button).

    Since I got my ipad this weekend, and the app looks like shit scaled.. I've been using it in safari on there (which actually works pretty damn well). Running into the same stupid logouts now. Yay.

    Sociable actually looks like a good idea.. too bad viewing the comments is chopped off with no easy way (that I can see) to view them right there.

    • miguelitosd says:

      Color me surprised... They did an update today that fixed the fb comment truncations.

  4. cattycritic says:

    Oh didn't you know, all the cool EFF/open source kids think we should delete our accounts. One random internet authority arbiter of style dweeb avers that Facebook is "UGLY" and therefore anyone who uses it is "UGLY" so everyone should quit.

    • hadlock says:

      Maybe not delete outright, but definitely slim down the amount of identifying information you give them. I'm looking for ways to minimize my "facebook footprint"

      • lionsphil says:

        You realise that when you signed up, the T&Cs you agreed to gave them permission to go hunting to fill in the blanks anyway?

        • cattycritic says:

          I went back and reread the T&Cs, as well as the very clearly written and lengthy Privacy Policy. These two documents explicitly say in several places that you should not share any information you are not comfortable sharing, e.g.: "If you are uncomfortable with sharing your profile picture, you should delete it (or not add one)."

          The T&Cs also explicitly state that your "IP belongs to you." They would be violating their own contract with you if they were to guess at your personal info and do something dumb like change your profile for you.

          So I'm not sure what you mean by "fill in the blanks." What "blanks," and how do they fill them in, and for what purpose? I've omitted lots of information in my profile, and it has never been magically filled in by some Analyz-O-Bot.

          [sorry, I tried to put the rest behind a cut but I guess it doesn't work in comments]

          The closest things I see are:

          1.1 "...you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook..."

          This does not imply that they will "fill in the blanks" if you don't supply all the information you possibly can. You can be imaginative and claim that that is one way to "use" the information but that usage is not defined there. However, it is very clearly defined in the Privacy Policy:

          The sections of the Policy that seem closest to your claim are the ones regarding being tagged in Photos and making Suggestions for friends and targeted advertising. This last is no different from Google scraping the contents of your e-mail to do the same thing. These sections clearly outline that you are able to control at least some of this usage by doing things like, untagging yourself from photos, restricting what your friends can share about you, limiting application permissions, and omitting personal information. That is significantly more than what Google does for you.

          The Privacy Policy in Section 7, "How You Can Change or Remove Information," is pretty clear to me about how to take charge of your own info and privacy. As crappy as the UI is, at least they make an effort to show you how to control this stuff.

          Much of the bitching about Facebook appears to come from people who read blurbs in their newsfeeds and who always check the "I Agree" box without ever reading what they agreed to, or who only think about their "privacy" after they've been embarrassed.

          I treat Facebook as if I'm at a big party with everyone I know, having a conversation through a bullhorn, with a cop standing there videotaping me the entire time. I adjust my online behavior accordingly.

          • lionsphil says:

            While I appreciate your efforts to lj-cut large quotations, please preview, because you're spamming me (and possibly jwz?) with comment reply notifications.

            Anyway, I have a stock argument for this because it's come up so often, over here. It might be out of date by now, but since Facebook use amongst my social group seems to have gone over the peak as they flood to the Next Big Thing, I have no real impetus to care any more. And you've clearly put effort in to make an informed decision regarding your own Facebook use, so that's fine.