While I was waiting for the SUV to take me back to my car, I got waylaid by one of the producers of MTV's Pimp My Ride. You know what a pimp is, right? He's a dude who tricks, frightens, or flat-out bullies a woman to fuck other men for money, which she then gives to him. Just wanted to clear that up. 'Cuz there's a show called Pimp My Ride. Maybe they can do another show called Rape My Crib.
is this what they mean by gift economy?
Patton Oswalt on "Gifting Suites"
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That's the most awesome paragraph I've read since the last awesome paragraph.
You been smokin' my crack, car?!!
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Anyway, the rss feed is only the first few dozen words, not the whole entry, and is thus useless.
Myspace: Where Web Standards Come First.
As far as LJ friends pages are concerned, that's the best kind--a brief taste and a link to the whole article.
No.
Yes.
As a subscriber to a dozen or so different RSS feeds, what I want on my Friends page is a paragraph or so of the article, and a link to the actual article. If every feed dumped the entire content of a multi-page, perhaps 20-image article (as some of them are), my Friends page would be decidedly more unwieldly.
Whatever.
A) it's faster to scroll than to wait for myspace to load; B) the first dozen words of an article rarely tells me whether that article is worth reading. Skimming ahead does.
I deftly avoid this by not reading MySpace pages. :)
It depends what feeds one follows, I suppose. davebarry3 is actually too short--it sometimes misses even the entire first sentence. However, is it's just amusing links, it's skippable if I don't feel like it. thrillingwonder is one of the very, very long ones with dozens of pictures. It used to not feed at all, now it feeds the whole thing, which is annoying--but they won't edit the feed to send a summary instead. malcontents and givawayoftheday are both designed to be feeds, so the whole (short) picture and blurb and link carry through. achenblog gives me the first paragraph or so, which may or may not be enough to draw me in. Just a WashPost columnist, though, and generally humor, so also skippable.
I'd say the best are those designed to be feeds--a succinct summary sent over RSS, with a link to the whole article, rather than just clipping the first few words/lines/paragraphs.
For any value of 'myspace', obviously.
You think they're good feeds because your definition of "feed" is "summary".
I won't read any feeds that only send summaries, because I'm interested in having a single URL - my friends page - that gives me the complete, sequential content of every web site I'm interested in reading.
This works well enough these days that I no longer read any sites that don't have full feeds (let alone that don't have feeds at all). And I read 145 feeds, plus 205 LJs/communities.
What about the feeds that don't work any more because the entries are too long? I used to do what you're doing, and had all my feeds going into my flist. But then I noticed that there had been no BLDGBLOG entries in a long time; it turns out that if the entry is too long, LJ just ignores it entirely.
Not a good failure mode. It should at least put in a "entry too long, here's a link" post.
So now I use Safari's feed watching capabilities and the bookmarks bar.
Well, that's like, a bug...
I hadn't noticed that bldblog stopped. Bummer.
Looks to me like bldblog is working fine now.
A more common problem is that LJ chokes on bad HTML in the source feed, and dumps out unreadable source from the HTML cleaner. That's a pain in the ass too (the LJ HTML cleaner is a piece of shit). But not enough of a pain in the ass to outweigh the benefits of having it all in one place.
It's working at the moment, because he's been posting short entries. Things like this were missed, and I'm sure Geoff will be back to long, invisible-to-you entries shortly.
Table of Malcontents regularly had HTML issues. Typical of a Wired operation.
Indeed.. I read some 300 LJs/communities and 25 feeds; most of the feeds send summaries, and the ones that send whole posts are often lists of links that I then follow--as ones like Boing Boing, Neatorama, Malcontents, and Ectomo are dedicated to disseminated interesting links.
I figure you either know already or don't care, but he's at the Punch Line tonight & tomorrow night. He's got a new album coming out in a month, so there should be some new material.
Didn't Warren Ellis already do this? Or is Patton Oswalt something i should be using?
I'm sorry, I don't speak Moon-Man.
Many pardons... this was the third mention of Patton Oswalt for me today. I have since educated myself and I am now laughing at his outsider humor.
I was at that thing! I'd never been to anything like it and my first reaction was severe discomfort as well....
The Pink Taco people were handing out VIP cards that you could present at any of their locations to be seated next, regardless of how many people were in line before you.
The whole thing was so awkward. You didn't just get stuff handed to you off a shelf. Every booth had stuff they were giving away (different levels of swag based on the color of your wrist band which coincided with how much of a celebrity you were), but it was all about them talking to you and pressing business cards on you and trying to make some creepy lasting impression. And whenever they gave someone "important" something for "free" they had them pose for pictures with whatever the thing was, and sign stuff so they could show off the "endorsement" later.
Lots of good it did them, too. The shoes were Reeboks and he kept calling them Adidas....
So... how much of a celebrity are you? According to whoever-it-is that put this on.
Essentially zero. I work for the DJ that played the party the night before.... Through a combination of avoiding direct eye contact and having a green wrist band I was pretty much ignored by everyone.
Patton Oswald reminds me of the nerdly mouthbreathing little kid who got beat up for being a putz and complaining that the other kids were stupid for describing something as cool. "That's a method of describing temperature, guyz, not a way of saying it is popular."
Way to keep up with pop culture, dumbshit. Pimp has become a verb form to represent making something nice or extravagant, such as a materialistic person with a lot of disposable income would posess. The intermediate step of this evolution is that pimp is an adjective that describes something a sucessful pimp might have. A pimp would have a "pimp" set of clothes on, and and would drive a pimped out car.
I know scads of folks who don't have the first clue about ebonic slang, and yet know this. I suspect Oswald knows it somewhere to, in the back of his unfunny head.
Shock and awe my family.
Nuke my burrito.
Put Sumner Redstone in charge of MTV, in competition with Rupert Murdock.
I had to google Sumner Redstone, and I am still unaware of how he relates to this. Stern doesn't like him, and Colbert referenced him. He's made a shitload of money in media.
What am I missing?
Or maybe he just doesn't like pimps. Pop culture isn't the only culture.
Hey I got no problem with that, he's just going about it in a fashion that will engender dislike. One can easily make a point about the moral shortcomings of pimps and still be funny, but he fails at it.
And thus his whole critique of Los Angeles society collapses.
Is that what he is doing?
LA culture is teh bad = Old meme.
That just further confirms my impression of him as a comedian who is hard up for material.
Is that what he is doing?
Step one: Read the article.
If I followed every link, I'd never get off the computer.
It did actually put the comment into perspective. The pimp comment just happened to be the dumbest and least funny part of an otherwise entertaining read.
Go back to slashdot.
What the fuck are you talking about?
This is your last even remotely friendly warning that you should stop replying unless you have something to say.
I believe his point is that referencing pimping as a positive thing is repugnant. It seems to me that you're the one unable to follow the train of thought.
Ah, but the term is referencing material success, not abuse to women.
And how hard is it to say, "That's some repugnant shit"?
I think folks give Oswald too much credit just because he slips in some politically popular sentiment now and again.
Ah, but only the bravest and most free-spirited among us will admit to our admiration of that greatest of all creatures, the craven thug!
WOW IS THAT WHAT PIMP MEANS, I HAD NO IDEA.
Jesus, you really are an ass. Go away.
What the fuck?
Uh, did you think my comments were directed at you?
Well, considering that he probably agrees with someone other than you, they were.
"Way to keep up with pop culture, dumbshit."
That comment of mine was directed specifically at PO, but I see how it could be easily taken to be directed at jwz. I wasn't calling jwz a dumbshit, so it was not directed at him.