So basically it's utterly useless now.
What other "current news photos" sites are there that I should be using instead?
(Google News is totally no good for this, since its photos are incidental to the articles. I want something photo-oriented, not article-oriented. You know, like Yahoo News Photos used to be before they fucked it up.)
- It's not.
But if you insist on going down that dark road, do it like this instead:
<A HREF="http://real-url..." OnClick="thingy(); return false">. That makes left-click do your JS BS, but lets middle-click do something sane, and also lets your page continue to function if JS is turned off. And spiders work, and bookmarks work, and basically you avoid ass-fucking the web. Ok? Thanks.
- Wow, they fixed it! Thanks, gecampbell!
AUGH I hate not being able to load images while I'm still reading a page!
Generally I do:
<a href="actual thing" onclick="return thingy()">
And then let thingy() return whatever true/false.
Knowing Yahoo, I bet their stuff works in some (probably crappy) if you don't have JS on. You might just try turning it off. Or wait for someone to write a Greasemonkey script to fix it.
I'd rather just vote with my mouse and use a different site entirely.
Maybe this'll do.
Looks like they're just publishing the raw AP feed.
I can tell just by reading that code that it wouldn't work on Yahoo, but hey, thanks for wasting my time.
you're being slightly more verbose in your rejections than usual
"a href" not "A HREF". XHTML is the future, let's comply by using the lower case :-)
Most awesome thread ever.
I can almost see him bareing his teeth as he injects them with jets of steaming white hate.
i was just really disappointed to come back this morning and not find any more comments by jwz. :|
Otterley's law: Any standard that's unenforceable is merely a suggestion.
"They're not so much rules as....guidelines!"
And here I was just going to say "Yay, someone else who still puts HTML tags in all caps so that people glancing at the source can actually tell what the hell is going on!".
Next you'll tell me that indenting nested tags is a waste of whitespace.
I loved to uppercase elements and camelcase attributes :(
Syntax highlighting editor for the win!
I use BBEdit at home, which does the same; but for a quick View Source, nothing beats capitalization and indenting.
Secretly I can't wait till he argues with you about it.
You could try BBC's "News In Pictures" which isn't bad and turns up the occasional gem, or you can fling this at greasemonkey:
All hail robust code!
'robust' is a disgusting word.
I think with the advent of tabbed browsing and the change it has brought to people's browsing habits, window.open has jumped the shark in general. There's very few instances where I can imagine there being a good reason for a website to spawn a new window. The only one off the top of my head being for some type of verbose help while filling out a form.
Speaking of retarded window methods, sometimes I really wonder who's idea resizeTo/resizeBy and moveTo/moveBy was. Ugh.
I don't know about that. Unless IE added tabbed browsing while I wasn't looking, a large majority of Web users haven't changed their habits. Sure, all the cool kids are using Firefox or Opera or some such, but how many is that, after all?
Well, isn't IE++ (I forget what version is out) going to have tabs? Maybe then we'll see something nice.
You should be able to write a greasemonkey script easily to rewrite the page back to how it used to be, right?
Read before posting, dude.
Jesus, your comments hurt my brain. I don't know how you can deal with it.
This will fix it:
Only half an hour later and already this post seems to be the biggest fucking IDIOT MAGNET I've stumbled upon in months. Which dipshit receptor did I inadvertently emit here?
Firefox users wanting to show off their toys.
Most project stakeholders don't think like you, eh?
To answer your question: this might work, if only because it abuses onclick handlers as per your update.
Eh, nice job anyway.
If it's any consolation, I'm going to install that at work tomorrow.
None of these are probably exactly right, at least when compared to yahoo's news photos, but here are a few I have bokmarked.
First is Corbis
This is a stock photography site that is really very comprehensive and up to date. If you do a search by news (or anything else) and sort by date added you will get more than you could ever need. No registration required to look at the images. There is a watermark on them though. If you register (free if I recall) the watermarks goes away.
Some really pretty shots, but it's National Geographic, so nothing really interesting/weird.
New York Daily News
2.5 million photos they claim, again water marked, no idea if you can get rid of them, also images are not that big.
I like the size of their pictures. The content is good or bland. The biggest downside is that they do it as a flash slide show, so when I have gotten (stolen) images from them I have to do it via screen shot.
On all of these, your results will of course be your own, I am usually looking for images I can use to patch another image or to use as deep back grounds. Good luck.
PS: I prefer "A EhFr" but I am dyslexic
Just to reply to myself with a question, does LiveJournal always chop up URL's like above? Is it me? Is it my machine?
I am seeing:
as clickable and the remainder "ntent/photo/" as regular text.
Becareful clicking on links.
There was a <wbr> stuck in that. Ouch.
Yes, it does, but the clickable part does at least have the correct link. Hopefully someone will notice and fix it soon, because it's really annoying.
I think what he wants is something that displays photos that are:
(1) recent (i.e. news)
(2) popular (so he doesn't have to sift through huge archives by himself)
(3) in HTML (so he can middle-click)
You write Powerpoint slides for a living, don't you?
Ha. Actually I don't know how to use Powerpoint. Which might be an even more embarrassing admission.
I think I was subconsciously anticipating an LJ argument and the need to refer to my points by number. :)
i think some of those are 2 out of 3...
National Geographic. . . Some really pretty shots, but it's National Geographic, so nothing really interesting/weird.
Well, lots real interesting, but some of us are weird that way.
A lot of the best YahooNews photos came from AFP.
Their website seems to keep the last 12 around:
(1) I'm so habituated to middle-clicking Yahoo! Photos that I've done it three times today, only to realize that I have empty tabs.
(2) At least they didn't do it in Flash.
(3) Hey, have you heard of this great new thing called GreaseMonkey? It totally removes your right to complain, because you can just put in the work to make someone's site operate the way it should have in the first place, and .........
Re: 2) Great, now someone will read it and do it. :(
Flash that loads the images as PDFs.
Adobe + Macromedia = PDFs with embedded flash movies...
That's no joke, Bank of America's site loaded some stupid credit card ToS (I was curious) as a PDF in what looked like a frame (didn't bother checking that) -- so that only an inch or two was visible. Yeah, could have saved the PDF, but didn't bother with that either.
“Will do it?” How about old news?
Just to chime in, I hate it too.
The selection of the following options in the "tab browser preferences" extension is necessary.
"Load windows diverted into tabs in the background"
After loading the extension they can be found in Tools -> Options.
As a work-around, this seems to work well. JWZ will hate it. :)
Also related are sites that do <a href="#" onClick="some_crappy_popup()">, again, without returning false. Thank you for temporarily fucking up my ability to click "back".
Heh. Jwz's rant reminded me of this.
Actually, I think that applies more to the people who comment here than anything.
I don't know. Making a whole LJ entry about how your image middle-clicking powers have been slightly diminished seems pretty wacky.
Yes but he's not sending off angry letters to Yahoo about this "outrage".
Yes. The situation is not identical.
Check the Prox-list...
I'm still getting over jwz using the term "jumping the shark".
I feel so...so...unclean.
We must all confront and destroy our inner Fonzie.
You've joined the Cult?!
The world has ended...
I've been right-click-OpenInNewTab'ing the whole time i've used firefox
my life is so much easier now!
I think the middle-click-for-a-new-window/tab thing started in either Netscape 2 or 3 for unix/X... maybe put in there by jwz. Ever since then I've habitually middle-clicked on links whenever I've been on a machine with a middle mouse button or clickable wheel.
I was happy they kept that functionality in mozilla. It was pretty much the only reason I put up with those horrid mozilla betas in the Grueling Years, even when I had to use windows. The worst of those betas was better than Netscape 4 in unix.
between that and mouse guestures, using IE is hellish.
Middle-click for a new window was in NCSA Mosaic, before the Netscape company was formed, before Jamie wrote his first line of mashed potatoes for the browser they called "Mozilla" before they had to rename it "Netscape".
You can also use Ctrl-LeftClick, which is handy on computers where the mouse lacks a middle button and maybe even a right button.
Or where the middle button is also the mouse wheel, so you go to middle click on a link and the page scrolls up so you miss it. So you go to click on the link again and the page scrolls down. I'l like to find whatever genius decided on having the scroll wheel double as the middle button and give them a good kick up the arse.
I think you just need a better mouse. Mine (Logitech Mx310) has enough tension in the wheel that I almost never scroll when I meant to click.
Ahh, that would explain why the scripts I have which feed the pool for this site have been dying every time they run. I have been too busy lately to look into it at all - but starting yesterday sometime I think they all started failing - they can no longer scrape the page I guess. Too lazy and not enough time to look into another way of grabbing the data at this point.
go to sfgate.com and click on the day in pictures. not as many as yahoo, but nice
AFP (mentioned above) looks good, Reuters does too :
I apologize that I am such an idiot, but we've adopted your suggestion and it should be live in the Yahoo! News site shortly. I apologize for any inconvenience.
That was fast.
Nice clown! Here's your cookie :)
Wow. Who else would have that kind of influence of Yahoo content? I mean except for somebody who works there, obviously. Truely amazing. Seriously! I could have ranted till I was blue in the face, I doubt I would have affected a change nearly as quickly, if at all.
While I bow to the awesome power of <lj user="jwz"> to use his powers for good, not evil, is there a fix for Safari in the works? âŒ˜-clicking (which should open a new tab behind the current one) is still opening and making a new tab active.
Can I ask a different favor? Your "captiontext" style makes sub-window textareas with their own scroll bars, often obscuring more than half the caption, and necessitating scrolling the sub-window to read the whole thing. You clearly have the room to double the textarea's height without having the right column exceed the height of the typical picture; that wouldn't break your constant-height formating, and it would be much nicer on your users. Please?
I'll pass it along to the UE people. Believe me, we do listen to what people say, and not just jwz. We've actually implemented a ton of suggestions that people made during the public beta period. Now that the site is live, we've been receiving many more comments. Of course, many of them are contradictory and not helpful, but some (like this one) are actually quite reasonable. I think it's important to point out that there's not some huge, evil "YAHOO" behind all of this. There's real people, real engineers and designers, who are trying to do the best they can and who are quite willing to work with you guys to help improve things. Hopefully that's not too idiotic. :)
you rock :)
but not until Monday at the earliest.
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