"I mean, we started out with 13 million viewers on the pilot, and we somehow managed to drive 11 million of them away."
There is an awkward silence when the subject of the final episode is broached.
"I don't know where to begin with that one," she finally stammers. "The final episode is... appalling."
I can't wait
Jolene Blalock on Enterprise:
Current Music: Low Pop Suicide -- Humbled ♬
i hated this crap anyway. too much pathetic patriotism and sappy analogies to the current world politics (like the "al qaeda"-xindi-campaign). "tomorrows conflicts today"?
There's a funny bit on the Battlestar Galactica pilot DVD about how the makers went into a meeting with some execs, and the execs were really excited about playing up the Cylons-As-Al-Qaeda angle that they somehow saw in the script. What's really funny is that they've since delivered a show where the humans have a president who thinks she's getting messages from the gods.
"Just as the Federation comes to represent the "West" of 20th century earth, The Klingons seemingly come to represent America's staunchest adversary- the Soviet Union."quote
business as usual...
Well! That’s promising!
I guess I shall continue to ignore the existence of Enterprise then.
Watching Babylon-5 totally spoiled Star Trek for me.
Really? I think watching Farscape spoiled ST for me.
Heck, Stargate SG-1 spoiled ST for me.
Ouch! Not Stargate! :)
How about all three of them, together?
(Although I think that what really spoiled ST for me was actually Descent: Freespace.)
How's that work?
ST relies on nothing but capships. I enjoy seeing fighters, bombers, and such.
Aha. I agree, but I think Homeworld (and Homeworld Cataclysm to a larger extent) would have been more likely to do the same for me, had I been a hardcore ST fan. As is, I only like TNG.
B5 is a gigantic snore. I found it intolerable.
The quality of Babylon 5 depends on the season. Seasons one and five are cursty, but the middle three were well worth watching.
You sound like an anime fan. "Yeah, it's not very good at first, but after you've suffered through the first 72 episodes of intolerable yet necessary background, it gets really great!" Count me out.
Pretty close. The individual episodes in all seasons are badly written, badly directed, and badly acted (with a couple of exceptions - Andreas Katsulis in particular should get some sort of lifetime achievement award for "best acting through a huge layer of latex"), but some of the payoff moments are great.
I was also spoiled by Farscape. Hey, a SF show that respects its viewers! What a concept!
The Muppets do space? The Henson kids did their pappy proud with some of the monsters they created.
I only started watching it this season, only because I enjoy watching a good trainwreck now and then.
That final episode is the work of Berman and Braga. A cynical mind might almost think this was done to derail the good work Coto and friends have done this season.
But for the reasons she outlines above, and with the recent developments over at Trek United, I'm quite interested in a season 5 over on Spike TV. Especially if Braga is going to be gone, completely, from the show.
Isn't Brannon the other bad one?
IMDb shows nobody named Brannon for the Enterprise credits list, so I'm assuming that you mean Berman.
And yes, they both equally suck goat. The two of them have done little but rape away any goodness that all of ST has ever had.
I thought there was a Brannon on Voyager that had carried over. ah well.
Yes. Brannon Braga and Rick Berman are the two execs.
I kept confusing B&B with "Brannon and Braga", because his first name sounds like a last name.
I like how she says she's a big Star Trek geek herself. It may be some very canny self-marketing ("I'm smoking hot AND a big geek") but she certainly walks the walk by slagging her own show like she's on the TWoP boards. I now picture her on the set muttering "Worst episode ever." and "Shut up, Quantum."
I really hope that in the last episode, they reveal that the whole thing was a dream.
As I understand it, it's going to leave people wondering if it might just be.
I can see it all now... Shatner sitting bolt upright in his bunk:
[FADE TO BLACK]
I'd tune in for that.
It's always worth-while to tune in for Shatner.
"I am going to keep the ears."
Somehow, I suspect her husband requested that one... damn Vulcan pr0n.
Where were the Soviet-era anti Star Trek posters?
Like we were allowed to watch Star Trek... or know what it was...
Probably because the Federation ran out of San Fransisco rather than Moskva. And because Chekov wasn't the Kept'n.
In Soviet Russia, Star Trek watch you!
That's a great joke that never gets old.
1) The temporal cold-war meta-plot was the most pathetic thing contrived. Whenever a sci-fi writer runs out of ideas, they bring out time travel.
2) The entire two seasons wasted on the Xindi subplot.
I've started watching the beginning of this season again because they've gone back to do doing what they should have done from the very beginning: writing fan-boy plots to fill in the gaps in the Trek universe we already know.
You're wrong about #1. "How the Klingon got its bumps" was the most pathetic thing contrived.
Oh gawd. Please tell me you're kidding. I'm about 8 eps behind. I'm guessing it's one of the ones I haven't seen yet.
I shit you not.
They even trotted out the plot where the Superinteligent Energy Beings perform an "experiment" on the crew and are befuddled by how Humans Really Care About Each Other.
I think they were supposed to be "Q".
I don't watch Enterprise, because it sucks, but I do want to know just how contrived the answer to this question is! How did Klingons get their bumps?!
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this, (and I know you will!) but as I understand it, there were "dark world" Klingons (the bumpy ones) and the "light world" Klingons, (the Early Trek ones), sort of two different but compatable species of Klingons, who shared the same rotationally-challenged planet. Due to one side of the planet being in constant total darkness, and the other side being in constant total daylight, they were at war with one another for centuries. Eventually, through war and environmental mishap, the Dark Side Bumpies won out, and hence, are the dominant Klingon race in Modern Trek.
1) You should be ashamed of yourself for even discussing this.
2) That's not the answer Enterprise gave.
1) I should be, but I'm not.
2) There are a lot of things in the Star Trek universe that Enterprise gets wrong, Klingon history is only one of them. This series should have never been made in the first place, as it completely negates much of what comes "after" it. Rather than filling in some of the backstory of the Federation formation, Earth's First Contact, et cetera, Enterprise tries to remake the Star Trek world in its own image, and fails. Much on this period in Trek history has already been written, and none of it mentions Captain Archer or his crew. The legacy of this series will be as the bastard mutant step-child of Trek, the one who is never talked about. Once in a while we'll toss a bucket of fish heads into the basement to feed it, but it will never appear on the Christmas cards.