"Peace, bro! And uh, I wanna give a shout-out... to my homie Moqtada... You the man, dawg!"
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<dilinger> jwz got it all wrong, anyways. it's "you da man".
I always felt it was ironic that the Victory sign and the Peace sign look identical. You can only tell them apart by context- the context here is unambiguous, but there are situations where it's nearly impossible to judge which is being used.
There is a slight difference between those two and a certain obscene gesture, though, and one that I've noticed some people can't distinguish. (You turn the back of the hand to the viewer, much like another obscene gesture.)
I thought that was the point. The hippies took the G.I.s beloved victory song and made it their own and corrupted it in a way.
No, the V-sign insult is much older. Used to be very common in the UK, but over the last twenty years or so the one-finger gesture has almost entirely replaced it. Now *there's* cultural imperialism!
The Insulting is palm back (towards oneself) the Victory/Peace V is palm forward. So, there are two gestures with 3 meanings.
that's a grenade in his peace-lovin' hand?
"You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means."
Obviously it's not just american neo-cons who think they're the heirs of Winston Churchill.
The V-sign as insult supposedly comes from Henry V's archers, who at Agincourt scored a famous victory over the French.
Meanwhile, AC130 gunships dropping 500lb bombs in urban areas are demonstrating the awesome pacific qualities of another well-known monotheism.
Not to pick nits, but the AC-130 doesn't carry bombs.
Thanks for pointing that out.
AC130s and bombers still seem to be doing the business in Najaf.
For some reason, an air war against a rather less well-armed indigenous population makes me feel rather queasy. Reminds me of...
I read that as shoot-out at first...
is it just me, or does the guy on the right look like he is a disgruntled sausage maker?
I don't know about you but I feel pretty disgruntled whenever I make sausages.
well his style of dress makes me think somewhere in the background should be a dingeree-doo (sp?)
Those guys are clearly not Iraqi.
If they were, they would have had fingers on the triggers, waving the guns around unsafely, even while posing like that. While the finger position is not above the trigger (western standard), it's still on the guard, which shows he has a vague idea how gun safety works. I've yet to see a single iraqi do this.
Real Iraqis are too busy to be standing around giving peace signs:
Eight oil pipelines in southern Iraq were sabotaged in an overnight explosion, an official at the South Oil Company said Thursday. Traders said the news helped lift prices.
I don't think you get to flash the peace sign when you're holding a grenade in the same hand. That just strikes me as totally missing the point of "peace".