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16 Responses:

  1. baconmonkey says:

    wow, I'm now, like, a published songwriter or something.

  2. ronbar says:

    You could get some cheap low-end refurbished Dell rack-mount servers. They all come with three years on-site warranty, last I checked, and they support Linux. They only officially support redhat, but in actuality they support just about any flavor you prefer. Dell's tech support is excellent and responsive and I've gotten them to send me replacement parts next-day-by-8:30am at no cost to me for machines I barely paid anything for.

    It really is nice to be able to call someone and say "duuuuh, it don't work," especially with Intel hardware problems. They'll do things like overnight you a new motherboard for free, even if you fried it yourself.

    Upgrading CPUs on Intel machines is a nightmare, and upgrading them on SMP machines is a nightmare squared. I've been there more than once, unfortunately.

    p.s.- As for losing sysadmin cred, try accidentally typing 'killall' on a Solaris machine with no arguments. In older Sun OSes, it kills every process instantly, with no prompting.

    • nrr says:

      I remember hearing that AIX did that with killall when no arguments were supplied. Or, well, even if arguments were supplied. I could be dreaming, though.

      Intel machines just suck. Go get one of those kickass API CS20 Alpha boxes already. Dual 833MHz Alpha processors are damn speedy, man.

      • curgoth says:

        Last I checked, AIX does in fact kill every process it can get its hadns on if you send it killall.

        • confuseme says:


          $ man killall

          Commands Reference, Volume 3

          killall Command


          Cancels all processes except the calling process.


          killall [ - ] [ -Signal ]


          The killall command cancels all processes that you started, except those
          producing the killall process. This command provides a convenient means of
          canceling all processes created by the shell that you control. When started by a
          root user, the killall command cancels all cancellable processes except those
          processes that started it. If several Signals are specified, only the last one
          is effective.

          If no signal is specified, the killall command sends a SIGKILL signal.
      • ronbar says:

        You only buy non-Intel server hardware and a support contract if you have a whole hell of a lot more money than time or skill.

        • nrr says:


          If you have a dumbterm (or something capable of reading and sending things via serial) and enough time to screw around with a Debian or NetBSD install, you can easily get something like a dual 833MHz Alpha box or a Sun Fire V100 up and running without any major problems.

          And, as far as I'm concerned, service/support contracts are a waste of time and money. Take the goods and related documentation and leave before they even have the opportunity to bind you to one of those infernal things.

    • joe714 says:

      From firsthand experience, I know that Digital Unix/OSF/Tru-64 5.0 does the same thing with killall with or without arguments.

    • What else do you expect from a program called killall? I suppose you want something like the namby-pamby Gnu killall? "Oh, I typed killall, but I didn't really mean it!"