XKeyCaps: A word I thought I'd never hear again.

A correspondent writes:

You know how [in 1991] you wrote XKeyCaps and saved a generation of caps-control switchers from the horrors of xmodmap? And you know how you let XKeyCaps die, partly on account of the fact that Gnome's keyboard preferences dingus had a convenient option for this very thing?

Guess what Gnome did away with?

No reason given, if ever there was one, and -- of course -- the bug report has been WON'T FIXED.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1224575

Just thought you'd be amused that in this, the Year of Our Lord 2014, it is once again considered perfectly reasonable to make people use xmodmap.

Previously, previously, previously, previously.

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12 Responses:

  1. You gotta be fuckin' kidding me.

    • Mantas says:

      Still in gnome-tweak-tool, and still in setxkbmap.

      Frankly, the raw list of xkb options that GNOME 2 had and KDE and Xfce still have, really is not any better than dealing with xmodmap. Possibly a hundred or so options, some of which appear to do the same thing but are in different sections, others do something but don't quite say what exactly, etc. And how often do you need to change it that gnome-tweak-tool is "too far", anyway?...

      • Yeah, this kind of seems like a non-story to me. In either case (keyboard settings or tweak tool) it's kind of an obscure incantation to make the change, but as long as I can find that incantation through Google I'm happy.

        • Jeff Clough says:

          Because it is good and proper that a convenient setting which existed in Gnome until last year---and still exists in Mac OS X---should be arbitrarily chucked in favor of using some third-party bullshit that doesn't reliably work unless you're running gnome-shell.

          • Mantas says:

            Um. If you're comparing gnome-control-center and gnome-tweak-tool here, they have exactly the same properties. Both are parts of GNOME, neither is third-party, and both have the same gnome-shell requirement (or, rather, non-requirement).

            • Jeff Clough says:

              No. The gnome-control-center and gnome-tweak-tool do not have the same properties.

              The gnome-control-center is a "Control Panel" analog, installed by default, and everyone has it on their system. And, up until last year, it required two (okay, maybe three) clicks to swap caps and control.

              On the other hand, gnome-tweak-tool is a clusterfuck of endless settings wrapped up in a half-assed GUI which purports to let me "tweak" about a bazillion things I don't care about, but doesn't work until I've properly prepared my anus with gnome-shell.

              And your suggestion that gnome-tweak-tool doesn't require gnome-shell is a filthy lie. Use anything else and half of tweak-tool doesn't work---including swapping caps and control.

              • Mantas says:

                On the other hand, gnome-tweak-tool is a clusterfuck of endless settings wrapped up in a half-assed GUI which purports to let me "tweak" about a bazillion things I don't care about

                Quite similar to the "control centers" of both GNOME 2 and most other 'customizable' DEs. The keyboard settings used to be less of a clusterfuck? Please. As you said, a bazillion things nobody ever cares about, with just one or two settings that each user desperately wants.

                And your suggestion that gnome-tweak-tool doesn't require gnome-shell is a filthy lie. Use anything else and half of tweak-tool doesn't work---including swapping caps and control.

                For one, if you're not using gnome-shell, you're already not using a large part of GNOME, so who cares if GNOME tools and GNOME settings do not work? Editing config files is the way of Unix™ and it's just a single line in ~/.xinitrc doing it manually, after all.

                For another, yes, GNOME 3 moved the keyboard settings management to gnome-settings-daemon, which means that either the settings work or they don't, regardless of which settings program they're in. If they remained in the control center, they'd have the exact same problem.

                So the complaint is perhaps valid, but it is focused in the wrong direction.

        • Other Jamie says:

          Good point. Lots of things in Gnome are easy to replace.

          Like, say, all of Gnome. Which I have.

          • √©ric says:

            +1

            In my case, I got rid of all so-called desktop environments and stick to ratpoison for window management! No need for any control applications etc. Just a straightforward .xinitrc...

            YMMV, of course :D

          • Rodger says:

            GNOME just makes me shake my head. It was getting so close to actually being a decent desktop, and they've let a failed smartphone UI designer ruin it.

            Still, wait until jwz see the way the new notification system shows your notifications on the lock screen...

  2. Erez says:

    But really, if someone knows about xmodmap they should be able to use gnome-tweak-tool to continue replacing the CAPS LOCK key with whatever. I don't get the "we don't have it in the settings as a one-click change so we need to revert to configuring command-line tools" argument.

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